40k Space Marine Throne of Skulls Tournament Review

Allo again

Today i shall be discussing the space marine codex and its bearing in the Throne of skulls final and the state of marines in 5th edition.

My first impression of the book back last year was that it was amazing and it finally was going to give codex marines that much needed lift. The book itself is well presented and is perfect for introducing people to space marines as well as providing extra content for us veterans out there. The army list and structures are the most balanced in any book GW has currently produced. However there is nothing outstanding in the book that hasn't had some sort of suitable counter balance, which in most cases is the marines point costs. While they have been given a list of numerous options to make all sorts of armies from a tournament perspective there isnt anything outstanding to do with the book in comparison to other armies.

Eg -

Eldar, have aspects/psyhic powers
Choas have the lash and numerous hard troop types
Orks have sheer numbers and a very good basic troop

Now these are the other top armies seen in the Throne of skulls final. I did a small bit of number crunching of the stats to give you an overview of how marines did.

Standard Codex Armies -

Total Armies - 17
Total No of games - 102

Wins - 27
Loses - 47
Draw - 28

Win % = 38%


Non codex chapters
Win Ratio (%)
1x Black Templars - 0%
3x Space Wolves - 44%
1x Blood Angels - 50%
4x Dark Angels - 29%


Now bear in mind these stats are abit messy as there arent equal number of armies, but of the lot the wolves seem to do well as always. If we include all of the results we get the following -

Codex and Non Codex Chapters -

Total Armies - 26
Total No of Games - 156

Total Win - 45
Lose - 73
Draw - 38

Win (%) = 29%


So what does this say? Now bear in mind i should really include all the results from the other heats, but these results alone seem to suggest my theory that marine armies at 1500 points cant hack it at the top. Now at 1750 to 2000 i think marines are a force to be reckoned with. Anyway what do you guys think?????


In other news, i'm at warhammer world for the Carnage tournament next weekend, i am a 40k judge! So ill hopefully be putting up my experiences there with lots of photos!

40k Throne of Skull Results

IVe just nabbed this post from mad larkin over at warseer

just got back, had an epic weekend. Will post up a report of sorts, but for anyone interested:
1:Ugo Oliveti with 1 Council and other stuff Eldar
2:Simone Di Tomaso with Chaos, unsure of list
3 Allen El-Sour with Chaos,2 lash 4 oblits and Land raiding berzerkers
4:Alex Whitehead with 2 Council Eldar
5:Scott Young with i think 4 Battlewagon Ghazgul
6:Me (James McGlough) with Chaos, Abbadon, Kharne and 2 Land raiders.
7:Phil Walter with Nidzilla
8:Gary Percival with Orks
9:Andrew Taylor with Witchunters !
10avid Richardson with Orks

Lots of battlewagons, and the 2 top chaos armies had 2 lash and 1 land raider + some oblits. Armour 14 is the way to go.

Out of the top 50 there were:
14 Orks
12 Eldar
7 Chaos
4 Daemons
2 Witch hunters
2 Tyranids
2 Space marines
2 Space wolves
1 Necron
1 Blood angel
1 Dark eldar
1 Guard
1 Tau

So a nice representation from lots of armies, not as many chaos, and the high ones wernt 9 lash oblits. Lots of seer councils and battlewagons everywhere.

Had a great laugh, no problems, awesome time!


Will discuss later, but seems i was alittle wrong!

Throne of Skulls Final - My predicition!

Rightie, work has been a bugger, but ive been paid and have all the undercoat, pallets and paint i need! So progress pics will be coming.


Well my prediction for the final, i think these will be the top four in this order.

1) Orks
2) Eldar
3) Choas Marines
4) Tau

Possible outsiders!

Dark Angel doublewing armies
Choas Daemons


Its kinda sucky that a normal codex marine army hasnt won a TOS/GT. It does make me sad, though saying that the new book that GW released is the best intro book for beginners. Its the most balanced book with a host of options. But unlike the other armies it just doesn't quite have that killer edge that the other armies listed have got.

But we shall wait and see if im right.


If you got any ideas, let me know!

Workbench

Right, been alittle longer updating, but ive started a new job this week and waiting to be paid so i can finally buy some undercoat for my models. In the mean time ive been working on a few bits, a dread, some guardsmen and dare i say warmahcine. I know its a 40k blog but i thought id give you something to look at!


Anyway, i started this dread ages ago, im planning once GW release the silver skulls shoulder pads to do a legion of doom army. I really liked the colour scheme. Anyway here is a dread semi done. Im having abit of trouble with the green, getting it the right colour is abit of a bugger. Also as ive never really painted lenses, my first attempt failed, mainly due to putting the lines the wrong way round.





Ive also got some guard in the works for the up and coming codex and ill have some photos once i get round to painting them!

Here is something else ive been working on, its a thunderhead from warmachine. It was a bugger to pin! I also have been trying out different base ideas, this one i wanted it to look like her was walking through a small stream, so ive raised up the the front and used normal sand to look like the bottom of a stream.






Also its the GT finals next weekend, so ill be doing a little run up on what armies i expect to win this week!

Enjoy all.

(i promise no more warmachine!)